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17 Jun 2007, 9:37 pm
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Chao Lingshen's alternate future
I was just thinking, what would the future have been like if Chao's plan had actually succeeded? Of course, what I mean by that is if it had stayed in effect instead of being changed back by Negi. And I was also wondering, what would be the pros and cons of having everyone know about magic; other than the things that were brought up in the series.
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17 Jun 2007, 10:51 pm
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then u will see massive ermine around the world
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You do have to wander what happen in Chao's Timeline that she cause those events to happen
Did She cause a war to do with Magic...?
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18 Jun 2007, 8:08 am
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Everyone would know about magic...
Magicians could help people more openly... The ministry of magic could get huge licensing fees off stuff like Harry Potter and Negima... I'd say it'd be pretty good...
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18 Jun 2007, 9:09 pm
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We can assumed that everyone will know about the existance of wizards in the future. We don't know why Chao had wanted to change the past. Something bad had happen to Chao in the future which cause her to want to change the past. Chao was allow to go back to the past because she plays an important role in the past. Chao will likely return from the future to continue to play her role in the past.
The alternate future which Chao had created was part of her role in the past. The alternate future did not come into existance. I do wonder what happen in the future to cause Chao to think about disclosing the existance of magic before it is finally disclosed sometime before Chao's birth. Because of Chao's presence in the past, she was simply allow to go to the past.:hkss:
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18 Jun 2007, 10:49 pm
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What I want to know is, what made Chao think that disclosing the existence of magic would change what had happened? I was thinking that maybe it had something to do with Negi not being able to help someone because he had to keep magic a secret, and that lead to something terrible happening. That must of lead Chao to want to go back and create a situation where magic could be used freely to help everyone.
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21 Jun 2007, 11:10 am
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Hm, for some reason. I think Chao started that fire when Asuna was younger. I mean after all her affinity is fire. I also have this feeling that Takahata-sensei is actually a traitor. I don't think that he should be trusted one bit, something about him just creeps me out. I have a feeling he's going to betray Negi and even Nagi later on in the series. I think Asuna will also play a big role on that part. She likes Takahata but I think she's going to realise he is a terrible man. Another theory of mine, I think Chao may be related to Asuna. I think Asuna may be her mother. I'm not positive. I read on wikipedia the part where Asuna is actually in her twenties. I guess she traveled in time as well. Negi might be her father who is also the incorrect age. These are just guesses though. The marks that Chao had on her body during the tournament where she fought Negi, I have a feeling that she did not want that for herself. Something tells me Takahata was involved with it. I also think something about that Demon that cursed Asuna has something to do with it as well. In the future something bad must have happened. My theory is that the Mages have a war. I think it ends terribly and in Chao's time a dictatorship is formed. She mentioned hating it, and she mentioned liking world subjogation. I believe she came to the past to try and get both mage sides together. They are always rivaling. I believe she wanted to show the world magic, not to be mean to Negi but to try and bring everyone together in peace. I'm a huge Chao fan. I believe she's good at heart. People just misunderstand her attempts.
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23 Jun 2007, 12:58 am
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hmmm good theory lingshen chao i like it but it is a bit far fetched i think it may be that someone close to her dies and she goes back in time to reveal mages so they don't effect whatever happened
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24 Jun 2007, 3:20 pm
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I just believe that something happen to Chao in the future. If she wanted to change the past, Chao would have been prevented to travel to the past by the Mages in the future. Chao was allow to travel to the past because her presence was essential to some of the events in the past. One of the events which Chao play in was the Marital Arts Tournament.
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24 Jun 2007, 8:20 pm
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Known about Chao:
1. Claims to be a Martian decendant of Negi (A least a hundered years in the future) 2. Wanted to change the past with conviction. The reason for which could be a personal tragedy similar to Asuna and Evangeline.
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3. She wont harm Negi (much). She is willing to sacrifice her life to save him. 4. A Northern Shaolin Fist practioner 5. A Fire elemental mage. (Which appears to be quite common, which both Mei and Anya are.)
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24 Jun 2007, 8:59 pm
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I do not want to cause thread drift with a discussion about the evils of human nature. The powers that be keeping everything status quo(including all the day to day suffering of the masses).
So I will just say Chao was misguided. She saw one way to try and change things. However even if she had exposed magic. The powers that be would continue the status quo even if things were shaken up a bit. Ultimately is would not change a thing. We do see Negi walking in the "world 8 days after" and it seems pretty much like the one he left. As long as there is greed or a desire to one-up your fellow. There will always be strife. Edit: This also supports a theory of mine. In which due to some tragedy in Nagi's life. Perhaps the death of his wife... Perhaps Nagi went a lil crazy and struck out on his own to try and right the wrongs of the world. I forget who said it, I think it was TTT in the world 8 days after, who explained to Negi that his own father might have sided with Chao to try and right the wrongs of the world.
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24 Jun 2007, 9:35 pm
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I too was thinking that exposing mages may not change a thing. Also, Chao siad that by exposing mages more people would be able to be helped. But I think that goes the same for the opposite. Magic could and would be used for bad as well. More people would learn magic and eventually some of them would use it for their own agenda. So yes, more people could be helped by good mages, but exposing the world to magic would also give rise to more evil mages as well.
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24 Jun 2007, 9:40 pm
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I don't think Nagi left because of the death of his wife.
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It may be far fetched, still I do not trust Takahata and I believe he has something to do with her future.
As for reasons I don't trust Takahata? Well here are a few. 1. He is a close friend of Nagi. (To many this would seem as then you should trust him. He is a friend after all. No, to me this just says "I'm your friend which means I know a lot about you, which means I have enough facts to use against you." Also, it is very common that someone's enemy was once someone they trusted so well.) 2. Asuna is big time crushing on him. (He may act like he doesn't know, but for some reason I think this is pure bait. Meaning whatever he wants out of Asuna, he can get it from her and may even try to get her against the others. She is an easy target.) 3. Just look at him. His powerful moves during the tournament. I think he held back during that fight with Negi as well. Who knows exactly what he is capable of. Nothing good I bet. 4. Didn't he try to arrest Chao? I think she knows something about him that he doesn't want anyone else knowing. That's why he wasn't going to let her blow his cover. That's how I see it. Maybe just maybe this was why she wanted to tell everyone about mages. It might have been something to do with Takahata. 5. We don't know too much about him, if I recall it though, didn't he once say he went to school with Evangeline? I don't think he meant Mahora either. Exactly how old is he and where exactly is he really from? 6. He's a bit too friendly sometimes. The kind of friendly that gives you suspicions. In my opinion that is. 7. He isn't that big of a character right now. You hardly ever hear much about him. He's there but there's still a lot missing. It's usually those shady characters who make huge impressions later on. And Chao happened to be one of them, only I think his impression will be a bad one. A very bad one. 8. Negi trusts him. Which makes him easier for Takahata to back stab. If Negi trusts him, he won't think that Takahata would want to betray him. But, in theory I think Takahata will. This also falls under reason number 1. Well that's all for now. What do others think? Last edited by Lingshen Chao; 4 Jul 2007 at 2:47 am..
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Another thing might I add. If Takahata is as old as Evangeline, then wouldn't he be able to see Chao's future? Who knows if he hasn't already. This is another thought out reason as to why he has something to do with her future. Maybe he affected it in a negative way. who knows? But it is my guess. Perhaps Evangeline will see Chao's future as well or maybe her curse will be broken before then.
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Most of those points a very plausible. But I don't ever remember Takahata saying he went to school with Eva. And the time when he went off on his own during the tournament, when he got captured, he was only checking out an area that lil' Setsuna had found. So he really wasn't looking to arrest Chao at the time. Plus everyone else was trying to arrest her too.
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5 Jul 2007, 1:59 am
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Lingshen Chao, I'm quite sure you are badly misinterpreting things. Takahata wasn't exactly friends with Nagi. Instead he was a young (late teens early twenties) tag along who studied Kankaho
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Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and it would be quite the twist if takahata sensei was evil. I did find it odd when we learned about how famous takahata is. It seemed kind of random to throw that information in.
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