Thread: Motion for Universal Roleplaying code

Originally Posted by Betong Åsna

I suggest that this should be in the RP forum. It's cluttering up the suggestion box

Only if your okay with whatever we come up with

And it does seem this could take awhile. The only thing I can say is for everyone to have patience and wait for the rough draft of the Guideline, other then that...we're gonna have to make do for awhile

Originally Posted by Betong Åsna

I suggest that this should be in the RP forum. It's cluttering up the suggestion box

That would be a good move, but this is a suggestion after all

Originally Posted by JosunUrashima

My ideal was meant to be for all.

To make things easier, we should simply put a notice up to state how your going to run things in your rp.

I mean no real offense towards Tomoya or any other Rper. One of my problems iswhen someone else starts to try and take over the story (which is kinda what it felt like to me)


Tomoya simply irritates me more because he thinks hes WAY better of an rper then me and some others. Thats fine. Its his opinion, which doesnt mean i agree.

IF i was to join an rp of Tomoyas, and i did something against what he wanted, id do my best to work with it. If i still couldnt, id just leave the Rp.


My honest opinion is that too much realism in an rp takes all the fun and fantasy out of it, because, generally, most rps are involving some plotline that involves stuff we cant do.

If any Rp rules/guidelines do come up, and I think there too strict in certain areas, ill follow the ones i approve of and warn others about the ones i don't.

Well actually i don't mean to sound like I'm siding with anyone but at times he can be flat out right. To be honest at the stage where i just staggered in and did things the best way i could think of myself at the time, wasn't really that good, fortunately most of it is gone from the big February roll-back, though not all. Nowadays, though i recognize there's a still a lot of room for improvement I only came as close to competent as i am now because i played against/with people who don't like to do things any other way, and by pulling myself to remember that, it's a free-form join and do-whatever thing i learned to take my own place, not anything flashy or important, just the place i can be that doesn't mess up everything that other people want. Watch, learn, assimilate.

Realism makes no difference, if it's too real then that means you wanted it to be realistic when you joined, or you read nothing.

This is what I feared. Well, more or less expected.

Similar to Grey, I learned roleplaying because I wanted to have people stop picking on me. Besides, realism doesn't mean it has to be realistic. It means you have a story that people will believe. Why do you think good fictional stories are bestsellers? The author took time to research, fill plot holes, and has a set story.

A roleplayer will also be able to work in with the guidelines and rules set about. A mark of a good roleplayer is that, if given a situation, he or she can be able to roleplay, even with an average rating, within it.

If you hate me, simply say so. Don't sugar coat the fact. I've been a jackass to you people because whatever I did to subtly point stuff into a right direction, as well as obviously state my own weaknesses, ended up me getting frustrated at the general lack of tactfulness I expected from roleplayers.

But its your choice. You can attack the fact I'm writing the initial draft. You can keep on attacking me even if I am past the point of caring. It's how I roll. I'm not even an accomplished roleplayer. To have someone consider themselves an accomplished roleplayer means they're full of bull. There are those who've been roleplaying since DnD edition 1, since BBS, but that doesn't mean they are roleplaying Gods. To have them say they are would mean they're on an ego trip.

What is there, is that there is one group of roleplayers, who has set a standard that they strive to live to, a standard that can be obtainable if you worked hard enough, and there are those roleplayers who the first group expects to be on the same standard.

It's a shame that I need to get involved in this thread...I thought I was done with your world, but when I saw Josun's post....(giggle at my GitS referance plz?)

Now then, since we're going to debate realism, allow me to explain this to you all. Video games and Anime are NOT good bases for what human beings can do. There are many, many limits on the human body, one of the biggest ones being strength and speed. Now, I allow for a margin of error for most RPs (You don't need calculations or anything for them, just general ideas), but there is a point where the line is drawn. A man cannot punch through a person's head with one blow, duel wield shotguns/swords/bazookas/pretty much anything beyond daggers and pistols, use completely over the top weaponry (bazooka, gattling gun, etc.), or do things that are COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC. Like fighting when you've lost an arm.

Understand this, all of you that criticize realism. If your RP is about Human Beings, and you are playing a Human Being, then you obey the laws of a human being. That means when you fire a bazooka in enclosed space, you are baked into a crispy meal by the exhaust fumes. When you lose an arm, you go into shock and collapse from pain. When you get hamstrung, you fall to the ground and are pretty much useless, etc. YOU ARE NOT SUPER-HUMAN. Has anyone else realized that this is all that realism is? Putting actual limits on what you can do? Can humans fire lasers from their eyes? No. Can they dual wield shotguns? Trust me, aiming a ****ing shotgun is hard enough, try duel-wielding it. Can you carry more than three rounds for a bazooka? Possibly, but not if you're already loaded with other equipment.

I lost my train of thought thinking about naked women, but this doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

Nani...slow down...

But he has a point. I can understand if Fuzi's character is healed and gains superhuman strength, but a normal human can't do any of those things.

Sorry, advanced lessons given to noobs are wasted. I keep forgetting this.

*saves*

I haven't been on for a while but i can still give my input i think. Anywho on the argument of realism and fantasy there is a middle line that sort of has to be followed in any and all RPs no matter how unrealistic the base source of the RP may have been. As nani said you have to remember what your type of character is capable of, if we through out realism for fantasy then your RP would be filled to bursting with godmodding gone wrong. There is however some play room for certain RPs, variables that have to be taken into account for the more fantasy based worlds... for a bleach RP the death gods are not bound to the same principles that we as humans are and so ja degree of unrealistic room is opened. That being said, there is still a standard for realism in such an RP, few death gods have bankai, ALL with the exception of ichigo and slipper hat took years of training to obtain it... so your character will most likely NOT have bankai... even shikai is pushing if for many characters.

You realism must be derived for an RP from the source of that RP, if it is based on a movie that uses humans like use from earth then you derive your realism from REAL LIFE.... if it is based in a fantasy world you still derive the majority of your realism from REAL LIFE... but bits can be bent to accommodate the RP being based on another world. Likewise location of an RP comes into play, If you have chosen our wonderful planet earth you dern well have to RP by the laws that govern it... if you choose another world, disc world per say, you must now understand the laws that govern this new world well enough to explain them to members joining your RP cause it is from them that actions will now be governed. In most cases the standard remains earth for it is hard to complete rewrite the laws of physics and still have them all make sense...

Now for the point of realism, yes it is fun to be able to do things that are impossible... but there is a point where you just start shaking your head at things... it is at this point that the RP ceases to be fun due to the complete lack of realism and godmodding begins. You see there is only so far you can take something before it falls apart, this is the same for an RP. When you have kids of 10 duel wielding claymors... you have to shake your head and walk away, when a human character it able to dodge the bullets from a mini-gun you just gotta shake your head and walk away. It is things like that that will kill any RP for even the most fantasy minded RPists... no one likes to hear that everything was dodged... at it makes it that much harder when everything was dodged at the expense of the laws that govern our world.

Simply put folks, there's a difference between fantasy RPing and just plain making no sense.
Example: You have wings you can fly and blow super gusts of wing, Cool, we can live with that if it follows the RP story.
Bad Examples: You attack someone and they automatically die. You marionette someone into doing something. You blow up a whole area and destroy everyone.

What I think many people mean by realism is that it has to make sense. No one says it has to be based off real facts. But if you throw a grenade somewhere while the person has already posted they're somewhere else, you can decide right there that they died.

Now back to the main topic, the guideline discussion.
Do we need to talk anymore or has this thread had it's day?

Moved. Keep stuff in appropriate forums, please.

Originally Posted by Betong Åsna

Moved. Keep stuff in appropriate forums, please.

Actually i'd say this is suggestions though. It's a suggestion as to something that should be added to the forum. Whilst is concerns RP. it ISN'T an RP.

Do you see us RPing here?

*Fuz reads the thread*
Now its an rp.

Okay, on with teh topic:
I dont really mind what rules are put in place as long as the OP is allowed to have at least moderate control over what goes on.
Allow him to decide the level of realism that is involved within the topic.

Well that's a given.

The OP has total control over the RP as a whole, just not not the individuals who participate.

If people only read RP Inc, they'd realize we're already working on a damn guide.

Okay, I'm glad everyone has an idea of Real and Unreal...

But start comparing rp with actual Genre's now, these conversations are good insight to many things...for me at least.

Bal's just lovin. the watchin'. Get to know how good (or lack there of) the RPers here are when it comes to the basic principals of RPing.

I say you put every new RPer through a test to see how well they know the fundamentals