Thread: Motion for Universal Roleplaying code

Personally I just dont care what others think nemore ^^
Its my idea of fun, those who share that same idea of fun should join.
Those who dont, piss off.
Fair doo.
Unless you want less members, lose new members and allow the RP section start to die out.

Usually, soldiers in said games and movies die first because of plot elements. They make the soldiers forget what they've been taught during training and whatnot.

Doesn't matter anyways, you can keep attacking me for whatever reason you have, I still think you people need to actually be better free-formers. You're at an average-below average level now in terms of free-form RP in my opinion. Which you people will attack.

Besides, if you think having general guidelines is a bad idea, than just say it is or find somewhere else to RP.

You could've just titled this thread "Tomoya is a jerk and I want some form of revenge."

I'm not attacking anyone.
I'm just stating my opinion based on previous experiences.

The thing is folks, you create your RPs and see yourself as God.
The point of RPs is to set out a story with all the participants, not make the story yourselves and make everyone follow it.
IF YOU WANT TO CONTROL THE WHOLE THING, GO TO THE FANFIC SECTION!

When rping, the storyline ideas you set may not always come true. That's because your rping with living, breathing, people. It's always interesting when others join and see what ideas you and they might form in the interest of furthering the story.

Really, I think it might be mandatory to start an OOC before an rp from now on > >

well at least aniki and bal can do something other than whine about each other. You other people who are still squabbling with your dogmatic views and long posts i have one counter and one alone for you.

"If you don't want a realistic RP join and unrealistic one, i you like realism join a realistic one."

Sounds easy but you guys seem to prove that even my stupidity is above average. RP's are what they are, unpredictable.
Do what you want, but not where you want.
Do what you want, where you SHOULD.

Bal, you already know that's somewhat mandatory. Most of the G-sanc RPs have a dedicated OOC thread. Heck, Kuro has like..5

May I just point out in saying that I dont think this thread is helping at all with relations with other members...
It just seems to be raising the tension between members...

Actually the threads is not to blame. it's the posters who are at fault because of their weak hearts!

lawlawlawlawlawlawlawl

you just fail to understand RPing.

RP's NUMBER ONE RULE: YOU R NOT GOD

This would also fall under godmodding if you think about it.
You don't control an RP, you can to a certain extent, mod your own RP, but in no way can you control what other members do. If a member wants to be realistic, let him, you can't go and say "no you can't". It's not your choice, it's the RPers choice on how he handles his own characters. But to say that you control the RP is unfair, you might as well just go over to the fanfic area and make a damn story about it. That way you can play 'God' all you want. RP's are, for the most part, a public story that is set up by all members throughout their own plots. If you want one story that everyone must follow, then make a fanfic instead of an RP.

I know I'm contradicting myself, but that's beyond the point.

"RP is writing a story with many people."

That is what I've grown to live by, and my friend can't have said it more perfectly. She and I had major disagreements, but in the end, we still RPed and accepted each other's RP styles.

Originally Posted by Okazaki Tomoya

Bal, you already know that's somewhat mandatory. Most of the G-sanc RPs have a dedicated OOC thread. Heck, Kuro has like..5

I know but you must explain these things, because not EVERYONE knows these things Okazaki.

Originally Posted by Fuzileer

Unless you want less members, lose new members and allow the RP section start to die out.

Okay, I've heard this statement quite a few times. It's time to point something out to the lesser intellects.

You. Do not. Hold any cards. Do you understand this? The amount of people here who are willing to give up RPing rather than improve themselves is very, very small. Possibly just Josun and Fuzi. When it comes to RPing, you have all the influence of a gnat here. So cut the pretentious crap and stop your pathetic "threats".

I really am trying to keep this as far away from flaming as possible, but boy is it hard. I've been RPing for just about 5 years now, maybe 6. I've gone from complete godmodding noob to what I am now, whatever the hell that is. I'm a literary critic. When I read the stuff that people post here, I shed one, giant mental tear, because the shape of the RP forum is just so desperatly sad. The characters are poorly developed, the RPs lack focus, lack BASIC logic, ignore rules, and to top it all off, the posts suck.

On to the topic of Jusu's post, and then the following one where his APC was destroyed. Regardless of who did what, it's still marionetting. Unless the person who is RPing has given you WRITTEN PERMISSION to use their characters in any way (including talking to, killing, fighting, or doing anything but noticing), you are NOT allowed to post with them. You can't have them respond to your questions, you can't insta-kill them, and you can't go up and pull four combat moves on them before letting them post (unless it makes sense, of course. Naturally if your first move is to grab their wrist, you can twist it behind their back and break their arm with about three steps...)

In the end, unless Jusu was given written permission, he was marionetting as well. Fuzi, however, was still marionetting, as well as godmodding (25 tons lifted with ROTTING FLESH?).

Also, if you were basing this off of Resident Evil, then you say that in the Title or the First post. That way, everyone who enjoys decent, literate, and most importantly, logical RPs can convienantly ignore an RP based off a horrible game.

I would like to stop for a moment and tell everyone, that I respect all your ideas about how things should and shouldn't be done.

But also, let me tell you somewhat of my own goals. I know for one, that animeb RPers are often battle inclined or fantasy and, call sometimes for posting on the spot rather then thinking your posts through before you do them. This is because for one, we are a more laid back community Secondly, we cannot be arsed half the time for such things since I'm sure you all have busy schedules.

But let me say this, I too understand we're we are all coming from. Allow me to say, that across all the Rp boards or community boards you've probably seen. There is a slightly higher regard to what you should do before starting RP. This is not the case here, but I'm not asking for everyone to start sticking to formality and tradition, no.

The simple way to state the fact is this. We're going to come up with a list of guidelines. We're going to see how they work, and removed/add when necessary. We are not trying to alienate ANYONE.

I myself, just want us all to continue RPing and continue having fun. Because of course, RPing is about sharing stories with others. An adventure that can spawn months or simple weeks frpm just an idea

Originally Posted by Balmung

I know but you must explain these things, because not EVERYONE knows these things Okazaki.

It's standard procedure, AND already noticeable in this forum. Besides, most of the RPs here have at least more than a sentence outlining the world and story. I stayed within their parameters in the zombie RP anyways.

Besides, people here wouldn't want guides or rules. They just want to RP from the seat of their pants. That's their definition of fun. It also means I'm blacklisted from many future RPs.

Edit: Motion to rename this thread "Okazaki was a jerk to me. Ban him plox?"

Either someone ignored my apology, or they read into it what it was half of.

My last post was meant to end the "flammming" and the arguments.

Since no one replied to my post, im going on the opinion people didnt notice it. Which is why im revealing my trap.

IT was a double edged post. It was meant to soothe, but at the same time test. It was meant to end the arguments, and instead talk about the current being thought up guidlines, but alos to test the perosnality of all here in this thread.

Nani, you continued the argument, and it was fter my post. I am currently thinking, that this means my estimate of you was true. You are a jerk who believes his way is better, and that he IS better.

Tomoya, your post so far has given me the view that you were already protraying that i hav of you. That you ARE a jerk, who cant get over being told "hes wrong" or "his opinion doesnt matter.

Now, like my last post, you can ignore this one. Thats if you were ignoring it. I could be wrong, and if you didnt ingnore it, then i apologize. But this was also a message. IF you prove to continue the agrument, my assesment is correct. IF the flamming ends, then it proves me wrong.

In flamming arguments like this in the past, ive generally had what some would consider "a victory" because after a certain thin being said, the person would completely ignore any posts, and wouldnt even post wether or not he thought we had proved a point. Me? i just think they got tired of dealing wiht "a lesser *fill in the blank*"

Think what ya want, but this is going to be my final arguing post. UNLESS someone says something REALLY offecnsive.

Oh, and as to it being a Resident evil rp, he hadnt yet decided what type it would be at the begining. it slowly evoled into one.

Now, is anyone going to put the guidelines that are around up, or am i going to have to do it? :>

Originally Posted by 々

Okay, I've heard this statement quite a few times. It's time to point something out to the lesser intellects.

You. Do not. Hold any cards. Do you understand this? The amount of people here who are willing to give up RPing rather than improve themselves is very, very small. Possibly just Josun and Fuzi. When it comes to RPing, you have all the influence of a gnat here. So cut the pretentious crap and stop your pathetic "threats".

I really am trying to keep this as far away from flaming as possible, but boy is it hard. I've been RPing for just about 5 years now, maybe 6. I've gone from complete godmodding noob to what I am now, whatever the hell that is. I'm a literary critic. When I read the stuff that people post here, I shed one, giant mental tear, because the shape of the RP forum is just so desperatly sad. The characters are poorly developed, the RPs lack focus, lack BASIC logic, ignore rules, and to top it all off, the posts suck.

On to the topic of Jusu's post, and then the following one where his APC was destroyed. Regardless of who did what, it's still marionetting. Unless the person who is RPing has given you WRITTEN PERMISSION to use their characters in any way (including talking to, killing, fighting, or doing anything but noticing), you are NOT allowed to post with them. You can't have them respond to your questions, you can't insta-kill them, and you can't go up and pull four combat moves on them before letting them post (unless it makes sense, of course. Naturally if your first move is to grab their wrist, you can twist it behind their back and break their arm with about three steps...)

In the end, unless Jusu was given written permission, he was marionetting as well. Fuzi, however, was still marionetting, as well as godmodding (25 tons lifted with ROTTING FLESH?).

Also, if you were basing this off of Resident Evil, then you say that in the Title or the First post. That way, everyone who enjoys decent, literate, and most importantly, logical RPs can convienantly ignore an RP based off a horrible game.

lol, you really hate me dont ya.

First of all, we all hold "cards" to a certain extent. I do wish to improve. I want to RP with different people and get a better view on what my personal favourite aspects are of RPing and how I could incorporate it into my style.
What I am trying to say is that by people like you instantly flaming us for doing one thing wrong, you arent exactly inviting new people to try out here and get to know others without starting on the wrong path. Every new person will make mistakes. I recall you just immediately jumping into the Zombie RP and start yelling at me for destroying the IVF in retaliation for the destruction of the van and start getting into how negative an action it was. There was no need to start hitting me with a hammer.

When you say you started off as a noob, then surely you can relate to newcommers. I, for one, write short stories in my spare time, so I sometimes want to just jump straight into a story and relax rather than planning out each character and force myself to read pages of character bio. I come here for fun, not extra homework.
I, personally, find it fun to see how each person takes the story in a different direction. Limiting an RP to what the OP says is simply quite dull and doesnt allow them to fully show the others what they are made of.
Its all a matter of individual judgement.

Going back to the IVF and armoured car situation, I just find it incredible that you started to instantly yell at me for doing something that Tomoya did in turn before - its fair to judge that you and him are quite good friends by now, so I can understand why you would be avoiding humiliating him, but I personally find it insulting and down-right rude when you begin to do so to us and heat up a discussion which, I believe, was starting to calm down.

Regarding Godmodding and stating that only I was in the wrong, let me quote the 2 cases where Tomoya and I destroyed the Vehicles.
Before Tomoya destroyed the truck, he said:
((Skully...your van is jack **** compared to an APC with a 30mm Autocannon and Anti-Tank missiles, let alone 25 tons of pure power and armor. No way I'm giving up any soldiers to you or let you take the lead.))
Then he procceeded to destroy the Truck when I thought that it was required for the owner of that vehicle to allow this to happen.
Unfortunately, one of the rockets landed too close to the 'crappy van' and the force of the explosion flipped it over and damaged the rear axle, making it impossible to move and such.

(lul)
Time for me to admit here; This sounds like an act of cruelty against the other RPer. I believed, that as the OP, it was my duty to keep with the quote of: "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." I find it a bit shocking that a more experienced RPer like Tomoya would do something like that anway, but there you go.
Dave just stood there.
Dave: If I tag along with you we wont be accepted as safely sanitized. I can not allow that.
Suddenly, the entire ground vibrated.
Dave: That dont sound good...
Looking out of the window, he witnessed a sewer-lid fly up and out crawled another one of those fat, bloated, huge things - right next to the IFV...
Dave: So not good...
He heard Havisham bark down the radio in a panic for them to turn the turret in its direction.
At once everyone began shooting at it - but to no effect.
With a simple lurch of its body, it smashed itself into the side of the IFV and it rolled over - upside down.
Havisham gave another cry in anger.
They needed to get the crew out of the wreckage of the IFV.
Not only that, but they had no more heavy support from its cannons.
Dave: We are so. F******. Screwed.
Although I did destroy the vehicle, I said that the crew was still able to get out.

When you say that the creature destroyed it with rotting flesh, think again.
Josun originally posted its description:
...a huge creature was tearing apart an entire human and swalloing the pieces in huge gulps. The thing had one huge clawed arm, and had several tentacles flailing around, feeling everything around it. Since it was in the direction of the lights, he saw that the face was missing both eyes.
I had believed that it didnt have rotting flesh. This is even backed up by deciding to name it a "Hulk" - not only a type of enemy in the resident evil series, but also a slight reference to the incredible hulk - note: muscle-massed creature.

Finally, I didnt intend for it to be a Resident Evil spin-off at start, but slowly I began to make more references to it. So I changed some ideas during it - so what?

You know what, if you're not willing to be more open and just slate people who are at a stage where you once were, why not make every RPer start a topic by placing a letter at the start of the topic title:
R = Relaxed RP
D = Dedicated RP
etc etc etc.

EDIT: Sorry Tomoya for making more references to you, I dont want this discussion to get any more heated but certain things have driven me to do so.

Once again, had you specified the fact that this was Resident Evil based, it would have made things much, much clearer for us.

Now then, on to Marionetting. There are two types of Marionetting; The Unavoidable and the Avoidable. The Unavoidable means that in NO POSSIBLE WAY can the other side evade whatever action just occured. The van would NOT be able to dodge said missile, and by the simple laws of physics, would have been flipped by the concusion. Other examples would be have a pistol to the back of a person's head, and firing. Sniping is a much better example, since the shot is pretty much guarenteed to hit you assuming an actual trained sniper is on the other end. If you get shot in the head, beheaded, or pretty much anything that is logically and instant kill, you are dead. And no, that is not Godmodding. Godmodding would be sniping them with dual .50 cal Rifles while they're in a tank, and you just happen to shoot it in the right spot. Or, summoning a nuke and killing everything but yourself.

Avoidable Marionetting is the kind that is punishable. No matter what you think, no matter what your personal views are about the other person, you never, EVER use the Avoidable Marionetting. This means if you charge at them from say....ten meters, and you say you stab them through the stomach, you are marionetting in the worst possible way. The human reaction time is something like .005 seconds (or .05). You show me a man who can cover 30 feet or so in less than a second (in the real world, of course.). Your "Hulk" Zombie thing, assuming that it actually could lift a 25 ton vehicle, would be one, incredibly massive, and two, EASILY HEARD. Remeber, it's physically impossible to lift more than you weigh without some kind of support; that's just physics. Your zombie was not strapped to a support chair or anything, and therefore must have weigh at least a ton. One ton can be heard and seen for some time, long enough for a trained military to get their various weapons trained on it.

Once again, since you apparently don't realize what you did by changing the content half-way through the story...allow me to explain how a standard RPer works. They enter the RP forum, and start browsing for a good RP. They check the various topic titles, and see which one sounds interesting. They read the starting post to get the basic idea, and then they decided whether or not to join. Perhaps they read into the storyline, but that's incredibly rare, and it usually takes place AFTER they join. EVERYTHING is outlined in either the OOC or the first post. If it's not, then nobody has a clear idea of anything. And for those who joined your original RP because of the starting post are pretty much unaware that you just changed the storyline. It's the GM's job to provide consistent storyline, and when they decide to change what the RP is about, they update whatever form of OOC they have and inform the members. That is their. Not to play God, but to monitor and keep the RP going.

Summary: Do not change the storyline when you're in the middle of the RP.