Thread: South Africa 2010

Well, we're gonna need a thread to discuss matches and maybe possibly have some betting going on later, so I'm making the thread . The groups are being defined at the moment, so far South Africa has been assigned to Group A.

Group A
-South Africa
-Mexico
-Uruguay
-France

Group B
-Argentina
-Nigeria
-South Korea
-Greece

Group C
-England
-USA
-Algeria
-Slovenia

Group D
-Germany
-Australia
-Serbia
-Ghana

Group E
-Netherlands
-Denmark
-Japan
-Cameroon

Group F
-Italy
-Paraguay
-New Zealand
-Slovaquia

Group G
-Brazil
-North Korea
-Cote d'Ivore
-Portugal

Group H
-Spain
-Switzerland
-Honduras
-Chile

Oh yeah that's today, well better turn on the tv.

I'm betting on these

Group A - Mexico, France
Group B - Argentina, Greece
Group C - England, USA
Group D - Serbia, Ghana
Group E - Netherlands, Japan or Cameroon, not sure
Group F - Italy, Paraguay
Group G - Brazil, Cote d'Ivore
Group H - Spain, Chile

woo! nifty draw, this'll throw up some interesting matches, and different paths to the finals than the punditry here generally expected

how'd you reckon the opener'll go against SA, selixico?

I think Mexico would win 2-0 against SF, 0-1 Uruguay, 2-1 France

Group A isn't too bad for France, considering they only scraped through.

Mexico will win 1-0 against SA, and lose 2-1 against Uruguay and 3-0 against France :/

I agree on them losing to Uruguay, but my (mostly wrong) intuition tells me they'll overpower France

oh yeah i know Mexico is way better than Uruguay, it's just that i think Mexico will lose.
Netherlands will win against Denmark and Japan, but will lose to Cameroon.
England is hard to say tbh

I recon England's in a fairly easy group, I'll be surprised if we don't see them at the head of it.

As for the other team's I'm a bit outdated when it comes to National Teams, but my guess would be:

Group A
-Mexico
-France

Group B
-Argentina
-Greece

Group C
-England
-Slovenia

Group D
-Germany
-Serbia

Group E
-Netherlands
-Denmark

Group F
-Italy
-Paraguay

Group G (This one'll turn out interesting, I'm sure)
-Brazil
-Portugal

Group H
-Spain
-Chile

No particular order, just the two teams I think will advance from each group.

OK, current predos. These may change slightly nearer to actual kick-off in June.

Group A
-France
-Uruguay

Group B
-Argentina
-Nigeria

Group C
-England
-USA

Group D
-Germany
-Ghana

Group E
-Netherlands
-Denmark

Group F
-Italy
-Slovakia

Group G
-Brazil
-Ivory Coast

Group H
-Spain
-Chile

I honestly don't see Mexico getting past the group stage. I don't say that to merely be flippant to selo, but I reckon Uruguay will get through as well as the Frogs (which will pain the Republic). England's group... we're going to top it, even if it's by goal difference. I can see Ghana, Nigeria and Ivory Coast all getting through their groups, along with the bigger European teams, and I do hope Portugal don't get through (Sorry Chao-chaaaaan!). Brazil, if they can be bothered, will walk their group.

Ah so you agree on Portugal not making it through.
Somehow i just don't think they'll win

I don't want to see any of the "better" nations except Holland to get through, just so we can finally claim that throphy, but wishing won't help would it

I reckon they'll be second. Don't know why, just something in my water tells me so

The Dutch might get to the semis but they'll struggle to get further than that. They've got the best record of European nations in the qualifiers (I think, they certainly qualified first), but tend to struggle more than Germany but less than England in the actual tournaments.

Yeah, but that's because we lack a true leader, instead it's like a handful of elites who don't know crap about real teamwork

we've supposedly got a real leader, in Terry. He's supposed to be embodying the spirits of great England captains of the past like Moore, Wright and Pearce, and he's been a bit blood and thunder in the past, but not really driven us places yet. Our best bet as captain for the last few years though.

As for teamwork, England in Germany 2006 were supposed to fulfil the promise of the so-called "golden generation" of players, but they got through to the quarters again and no further. Our trouble is we've got players who want to win the game on their own but aren't good enough to do so, or at least haven't shown that in tournaments. A good record in qualifying, as Romania, Holland, Spain as well as England in the past have all shown us, counts for nothing in the competition proper.